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But it probably won't have quite as good quality as the HP gear.
And it's going to run 60-90 watts, probably. Depending on your goal, a small E3-1230 based system with mainboard ($150) E3 ($220) 16GB RAM ($200) chassis/PS ($100) totals in at around $670, so then add two of either kind of drives for $870 for either fast SSD mirrored storage or large HDD mirrored storage. SSD's are nearing $100 for 240/256GB units. The problem with the MSA70 type strategy is that you're unlikely to wind up with a lot of fast storage, but it'll cost a lot of energy anyways. The WD20EARS we acquired back in 2010(?) are now starting to fail and have been replaced with 3TB or 4TB drives. I am fine with maybe upgrading hard drives, especially if they're failing. I want the gear itself to have a five year lifecycle at a minimum. As a business issue, I look at storage as an investment. I wonder 'Maybe it's just better to buy the mini and throw drives in it?' or 'Maybe I'll price a super micro platform and start adding drives?' As jgreco said, maybe a few 6GB sas drives is way better than a bunch of older drives in an older platform by the time you keep spending money buying older parts? I think like everyone else trying to decide how much money to spend if you're doing this for fun and not business needs, you have to weigh how much money do I want to spend vs how decent is my build going to be. This discussion would have also done well in this thread, since a 'gotcha' of this guy's MSA70 is same as jgreco is talking about above. I wonder what the cost of a current system would be offering about the same raw storage space, and how the two would compare in raw, untuned performance? (obviously as in above, newer will blow away older, but at how much cost differnce? Maybe not as much as people think?) So with all that said, based on your comment So total cost to get this now from ebay would be around $1000 We have Qty 10 146GB 10K SAS, Qty 8 73GB 10K SAS HP MSA70 (2U / 25 total of 2.5" drive slots 3G speed) ebays ~$200īest drive deal I've seen to get the small drives we have - 140GB 10K for ~$40 / usually ~$80-~100
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(Assuming it would bench a little above the G1 series (6000) because of dual quad core) I'll use this as an OLD GEAR example and use prices from ebay (if you were doing it as a new to you purchase):Īn HP DL 360/380 G5 (1U) / dual socket E53xx series / ~2.33Ghz / 32GB ECC / usually two small internal SAS for OS if needed From the junk (maybe too hash a word) I have laying around I'm using for FreeNAS right now (still waiting on a SAS HBA before testing) Or can you shed some light on it based on what you've personally purchased?Į.G. If you look at it from a performance per dollar point of view, the E3 nodes get 4x more done per watt AND I get 4 drive NAS storage capabilities included.Īs I have been cruising the forums in the last few weeks, I have not seen anything that directly compares old hardware to new, focusing on cost vs performance. I am not convinced that old gear offers much in the way of value. and fits inside the typical host, reducing power and complexity. It offers Spaceballs-class "Ludicrous Speed" compared to a shelf of two dozen SAS HDD's. SAS drive prices tend to be out of line: a DAS RAID controller with a quartet of 1TB SSD's is less than $3000. We used to buy drive shelves like the MSA7o in order to build up IOPS capacity for spinny drives an individual drive might only have 100 IOPS but 24 of them would be 2400 IOPS aggregate! But now it is all screwy.
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The build quality of the HP gear is very good but with their recent firmware upgrade policy change we won't be buying their servers. Geekbench 3 results are around 11000 for these.
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With four 3.5" 7200 RPM HDD's (FreeNAS! Yay!) and running the CPU full out I can get these up to 110, 120 watts MAYBE.
We've also got some X9SCi-LN4F with E3-1230 running as ESXi hosts. Geekbench 3 results are around 6000 for such a machine. Even with the HE CPU's these things average 250 watts. We've got some HP D元65G1's (~2008-2009 era) running as ESXi hosts, dual Opteron 2346 HE (8 cores at 1.8GHz).